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ENFIELD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
DECEMBER17, 2009

A Regular Meeting of the Enfield Planning and Zoning Commission was held on Thursday, December 17, 2009 in the Council Chambers, Enfield Town Hall, 820 Enfield Street, Enfield, Connecticut.  Chairman Duren called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.

PRESENT:              Charles Duren, Chairman
Elizabeth Ballard
Peter Falk   
Lori Longhi
Ronald Gregory, Alternate
Charles Ladd, Alternate

ALSO PRESENT:     José Giner, AICP, Director of Planning

FIRE EVACUATION ANNOUNCEMENT

Chairman Duren gave the fire evacuation announcement.

MINUTES

Commissioner Falk made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Ballard, to approve the Minutes of December 3, 2009.  Chairman Duren made two corrections to these Minutes.  Paragraph five, second to the last sentence should read: “Chairman Duren stated on other applications it is enclosed.”  On page 10, paragraph four should read:  “Chairman Duren asked about the color of the windows as depicted on the drawing and are they dark brown or white.” The Minutes, as amended were approved by a 5 – 0 – 1 vote.  Commissioner Longhi abstained.

Chairman Duren congratulated Charles Ladd on his appointment as a full Commissioner by the Town Council at their last meeting.  Also, he congratulated Peter Falk and Elizabeth Ballard who were reappointed.     

STAFF COMMENTS

a.  Director of Planning

Mr. Giner brought the Commission up to date on the Plan of Conservation and Development.  He emailed a link on the town’s web page of the latest draft.  What he did was take the whole document and split it into chapters for ease in reading and printing.  Mr. Giner printed out a master copy today and it consists of 320 pages.  It is available on line for review.  If everything is fine and he receives no additional changes, he is going to ask the consultant to make 25 copies.  They asked if he wanted the copies now or when it is completed.  Mr. Giner preferred them now and noted when it is completed they will do a bigger run rather than just twenty-five.  Mr. Giner will get the twenty-five copies to the Commission and to the Town Council and if needed, extra copies will be printed. 

Chairman Duren noted copies will be needed for the Town Council and for the Commission.  Mr. Giner stated they will need extra copies for the library.  Chairman Duren stated the public will need some copies.  Mr. Giner stated eventually they ended up doing five or six copies for the library.  He will make sure he receives enough copies initially so that when a public hearing is scheduled, people will have ample opportunity to review the document.  The document will also have to be referred to the State Office of Policy and Management for their review and to the Capitol Region Council of Governments by statute.  They have comment authority on the town’s plan of conservation and development. 

Chairman Duren asked what happens if either agency has a problem with it.  Are we mandated to change it?  Mr. Giner stated they do have some authority to approve and they would have to point out where it is inconsistent with any state policy.  They have to point out specific things that they feel go against the state plan of conservation and development or the regional plan.  The town would be obligated to explain why they felt it wasn’t inconsistent.  Mr. Giner stated he would think they would call the town first before they give a negative comment and give the town a chance to explain it.  The Council will have the authority to comment and recommend.  As Mr. Giner explained previously, if the Council has a negative recommendation, the ultimate authority is with the Planning and Zoning Commission to adopt or reject the plan.  If the Commission adopts it with a negative recommendation from the Town Council, it has to have a two-thirds vote. 

Chairman Duren stated the Town Council has been working with the Steering Committee.  Mr. Giner noted a couple of Town Council members have been attending the Steering Committee meetings.  Hopefully, what is in the Plan reflects some of their views already. 

Mr. Giner stated the Commission has to have public hearings on the Plan.  The Council may or may not hold hearings.  Mr. Giner’s understanding was that the Commission will have a joint hearing with the Council rather than have separate hearings so everyone can get input from the public.  Mr. Giner saw a need to work out the logistics with the Town Council as to when a joint public hearing can be held.  Mr. Giner noted hopefully it will be in the next month or so.  The Commission may need more than one public hearing. 

Commissioner Longhi asked about the Plan.  Mr. Giner confirmed it is on line by chapter.  He has cut it up into 13 sections.  There are some stand alone maps that are in the Plan also.  Mr. Giner stated he is making it as easy to view and print as possible.

Mr. Giner stated the Commission has an application to be received tonight and he asked the Commission if he could handle it administratively.  It is SPR#1487, Proposed Change of Use to a recording studio for existing commercial space at 80 Pearl Street.  Mr. Giner stated 80 Pearl Street is in the Thompsonville area.  They are taking one of the small units and not doing any exterior work.  The gentleman that is applying wants to use the unit as a small recording room where people can pay to have a demo tape done.   It consists of some storage space.  Chairman Duren asked if he would be taking the space to the left.  Mr. Giner stated it is 84 and 86 and there are three empty units. Chairman Duren recalled that somebody came in and was going to do two things on the left hand unit.  Mr. Giner stated that was the gentleman with the photography studio on the left. 

Mr. Giner stated the Commission can’t regulate noise by their regulations but the noise ordinance applies.  It is a mixed commercial use so there must be a fire code separation from previous uses there.  Mr. Giner noted that ERSC has allowed Peter Bryanton to handle this administratively since they are not going to be meeting until January.  The Commission won’t be meeting to receive applications until the second meeting in January.  The first meeting is just for electing officers. 

Mr. Giner stated the gentleman wants to change the unit and put an engineering room and recording room in.  He will charge people to prepare a cd if you are an amateur.  The recording booth is 6.5’ x 6.5’ and the engineering room is 9.5’ x 8’.       

Commissioner Longhi made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Ballard, to allow Mr. Giner to handle administratively SPR#1487, proposed change of use to recording studio for existing commercial space at 80 Pearl Street (Unit 84) in a TVCZ District.  The motion was approved by a 6 – 0 – 0 vote with Alternates Ladd and Gregory voting.

Commissioner Ladd had a question regarding the Plan of Conservation and Development.  They talked at the POCD Committee about having a summary printed so that if people wanted to see what was in the Plan they could have a smaller document or an executive summary.  Commissioner Ladd asked if that is still being done.  Mr. Giner stated he would have to do it because the consultant’s contract is running out.  Putting together implementation strategies and the futures plan is really the meat of it.  The rest of it is a lot of inventory and statements.  Mr. Giner stated he can certainly do such a summary.  The futures plan and the implementation strategies are the two chapters that summarize the plan.  He suggested pulling those out as a summary with the maps of the future land use plan.  Commissioner Ladd stated if people come to the Town Hall and want to know about a certain part of the Plan, you wouldn’t have to hand them a full 300 page report each time.  Mr. Giner stated the implementation strategies have the goals by paragraph and he suggested that be used as a summary.  Mr. Giner stated there is no executive summary at the front of the plan.  It is just the futures plan and the implementation strategies.  He noted that is what the summary was in 1999.  Commissioner Ladd stated Mr. Giner might ask Martha what she thinks about an executive summary. 

Chairman Duren stated on the desk tonight is the Aquifer map for North Thompsonville and the Commission will see that it is quite extensive.  Mr. Giner stated in some places the areas have expanded from what the preliminary estimates were.  Mr. Giner does not yet have the GIS shape file but as soon as he gets it, he will put it on the zoning map and schedule a hearing to adopt that map.  Chairman Duren requested that Mr. Giner schedule a meeting of the Aquifer Protection Agency for the first meeting in February.  Chairman Duren stated Mr. Giner will have to start notifying people in this area.  He noted the area is quite extensive and goes up into North Maple Street.  Mr. Giner stated he doesn’t think it makes it as far as Plaza Excavating.  Chairman Duren thought it did.  Mr. Giner showed the area on the map that is affected.  Some discussion followed on the particular areas affected.  Mr. Giner stated the only place you’re going to have an impact is on the North Thompsonville interchange.  Chairman Duren requested that Mr. Giner reproduce the map received for all the Commission members. 

Mr. Giner stated there will be a bicycle friendly community symposium put on by the Capitol Region Council of Governments on January 12 from 5:30 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. at the Great Hall of the Bushnell in Hartford.  The event is designed for town governing bodies, planners and engineers.  It is sponsored by the Bushnell of Central Connecticut Bicycle Alliance and the Capitol Region Council of Governments.  It is to plan for better bicycle access. 

CORRESPONDENCE

Correspondence includes the Environmental Management Bulletin, the Connecticut Federation of Planning and Zoning Agencies Quarterly Newsletter, and a summary of zoning subdivision and POCD referrals from the Capitol Region Council of Governments. 

COMMISSIONERS’ CORRESPONDENCE

Commissioner Ladd brought up the street off of Route 190 across from Johnson and where Planet Fitness is.  One of their units is pumping water on the street almost every night.  Mr. Giner stated that is a private road.  Commissioner Ladd stated it is near the first speed bump and the second group of buildings.  He has seen it coming out of a three inch pipe and they do it quite often.  Mr. Giner will look into this but he added it is a private road.  Commissioner Ladd felt it is a safety hazard this time of year.  He questioned whose responsibility it would be and whether it would be zoning, police or public works.  They are pumping it into the sewer in the storm drains.  Mr. Giner stated it is a liability for whoever owns that road.  Commissioner Ladd stated it is being pumped in spurts.  He doesn’t know if someone is pumping out their cellar or what is being done.  He has seen it ten times in the last two months.  It is a pretty good flow of water when they do pump it.  Mr. Giner will ask Engineering about this.  Commissioner Ladd stated there is a three-inch pipe coming out of the wall and that is where it pumps out of. 

Chairman Duren stated in the Connecticut Federation Newsletter on page three it talks about a decision.  In this case it was a requirement that all storm drains be made of concrete and the approved site plan stated the pipes would be of PVC material.  It said while functionally the pipes were equivalent, the Court found that the Commission, when reviewing a site plan did not have the discretion to allow for this substitution as the requirements were clear.  Mr. Giner stated you can specify what type of pipe but you can also put in language that says or an alternate that may be allowed by Public Works.  In many cases, there is that language.  Mr. Giner stated if you allow the Director of Public Works or the Town Engineer to okay other types, that is admissible.  Chairman Duren noted the Commission has to be careful of their verbiage.  Mr. Giner stated the town used to require just pavement for their parking lots but the last time they did a revision they allowed alternate pavements like gravel or crushed stone. 

Commissioner Ladd brought up the article in the Connecticut Federation Newsletter about the ZBA approval.  They are pretty strict about how many people can approve something.  Mr. Giner stated at the ZBA you need four votes for an approval. Mr. Giner stated with the ZBA they always give the applicant the option of coming back if there is not a full board present.  Chairman Duren stated the Commission tries to do that also because if there are seven members, applicants deserve seven votes.

BOND RELEASES

a.  SPR #1401 – Request for Release of $2,300 Erosion & Sediment Control Bond for 7 Anngina Drive.

Commissioner Longhi made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Falk, to release the $2,300 Erosion & Sediment Control Bond for 7 Anngina Drive, SPR#1401.  Reference is made to the memo dated December 4, 2009 from John Cabibbo recommending release.  The motion was approved by a 6 – 0 – 0 vote. 

PUBLIC HEARINGS (NEW)

a.  PH # 2690 – Special Use Permit to allow the construction of a Farm Stand in excess of 200 s.f. at 147 Abbe Rd. in a Residential 44 (R44) District, Map 85, Lot 16, Jarmoc Real Estate LLC owner/applicant.

Commissioner Longhi recused herself from this application.

Chairman Duren noted that Commissioners Gregory and Ladd will be sitting in for the absent Commissioners. 

Steve Jarmoc, 33 School Street, from Jarmoc Realty LLC appeared before the Commission regarding this application.  He is seeking a special use permit for a fruit stand and farm accessory building over 200 square feet. 

Chairman Duren stated Mr. Jarmoc has had problems with the Building Department and the Zoning Board of Appeals and that is the reason he is here.  The stand was destroyed by a bus accident and he has rebuilt it but it is over 200 square feet.  Chairman Duren cited the picture of the fruit stand which doesn’t meet the zoning requirements. 

Mr. Jarmoc stated what happened was he filed his permit prior to building the stand.  He went down and the woman said you’re all set.  He dropped his plan off the day before and went down and filed for a building permit.  He was told he was all set and he should have his permit Monday or Tuesday.  His guys went out and poured a couple of piers and started to build on Friday afternoon.  Saturday, Sunday and Monday they got the stand up.  The Commission has a picture for the record of what the stand looked like.  That was by Tuesday afternoon.  At that time, the Building Official came out and put a cease and desist order on him because he did not yet have a permit.  He was told they could not give him a permit because he was in zoning violation.  Mr. Jarmoc didn’t know why he was in zoning violation and he was a little worried that the Building Official thought the stand encroached upon the road a little more than the old one did.  He worked very hard on the site plan and the front dimension goes no closer to the road than the old stand did.  The Building Official said it was the height that was the problem.

The Building Official noted that farm accessory use buildings can only be up to twelve feet high.  Twelve feet is the measure between the peak of the roof and the mid point.  The mid point between the peak and the eaves of the roof is where they establish the twelve feet.  Their stand is about 13’ 8”.  Mr. Jarmoc is here to get a special use permit first because he can’t lower the stand because he can’t go in it due to the cease and desist from the Building Department.  That cease and desist continues until he is not under zoning violation in accordance with zoning law. Mr. Jarmoc first asked under the nonconforming structures, Section 3.40.2, and that perhaps the Zoning Board can waive the height requirement.  He read the ordinance for the benefit of the Commission.  He thought the shed was more compatible with the surrounding area.  It looks just like a barn and it is lower than any other structure on the farm.  It is lower than their camp by about three feet at the peak of the roof.  It is lower than the barn that it is measured from and it is by far lower than his dad’s house that is on the farm.  There is a storage barn in his yard and it is lower than that.  Mr. Jarmoc stated they do own the property across the street which has five tobacco barns on it.  It’s lower than every other barn.  Mr. Jarmoc stated the uprights for this particular structure are eight feet.  On a regular tobacco barn they are sixteen feet.  They are eight feet lower.  Mr. Jarmoc stated if that is not the pleasure of the Commission, he is still asking for approval because he has a new plan where they would lower the building by two feet.

Mr. Jarmoc presented the plan showing the lowering of the building by two feet.

Chairman Duren asked if Mr. Jarmoc meets the requirements of 4.30.1, section b and c.  He is at least twenty feet from the street line and one hundred feet from any intersection.  Mr. Giner confirmed he meets the requirements.

Mr. Giner stated it is a simple farm stand and it is a three-sided structure. 

Chairman Duren stated Mr. Jarmoc told the Commission that he was going to cut off two feet and drop the building. 

Mr. Jarmoc stated there will be garage doors on the front but they never got that far because of the cease and desist. 

Commissioner Falk stated if you drop the roof by two feet that means the opening in the front is six feet and he couldn’t get in there without whacking his head.  Mr. Jarmoc stated it is on cement piers which do rise up from the surface of the ground.  You are dropping it two feet but you are still on a sill.  The opening will be roughly seven feet at the eave.  Now it’s eight feet.  Commissioner Falk commented they will only be dropping the building one foot.  Mr. Jarmoc stated they will be dropping it two feet.  He corrected himself and stated now it is nine feet and the opening will be seven feet when it is dropped two feet. 

Chairman Duren noted that Mr. Jarmoc will have sufficient height by dropping the building two feet and people of Peter’s height can get in and out.  Chairman Duren asked about the garage doors.  Mr. Jarmoc stated he plans to install them on the front.  They are not in the picture because of the stop work order. 

Commissioner Falk asked when this took place.  Mr. Jarmoc stated last summer.  He was hoping to build this before the vegetable season.  They started it in mid July and the stop work order was issued July 19. 

Chairman Duren noted the ZBA Minutes in the meeting packet.

Mr. Jarmoc stated at the ZBA meeting they said the hardship was self-imposed.  He agreed with them and noted it was built to that height.  But it was because he was told it was okay. 

Mr. Giner stated the Commission has a memo from him. 

Chairman Duren opened this hearing to the audience.

Jack Sheridan, 7 Buchanan Road, stated he is here to speak in favor of leaving the stand the way it is.  He lives on Buchanan Road and Steve’s farm is in his back yard.  As Mr. Jarmoc said, there isn’t a building around it.  It would be a shame to alter it.  Mr. Sheridan loves this building and he noted it was the talk of the street saying it is so much more homogeneous to the area the way it is now than even the old building.  The old building looked like it belonged in the back yard of ordinary homes.  This thing looks like it belongs there.  The property north, south, east and west is all Mr. Jarmoc’s and he doesn’t get why it has to be changed.  It looks so much more like it belongs there than the old building.  Mr. Sheridan was at a Mayor’s Advisory Meeting on Monday night and they were talking about being friendly toward business in town.  It’s not like you have to put a beacon for Bradley Field on the roof.  It looks right to Mr. Sheridan.  All the buildings around there are much larger and taller than this building.  If it wasn’t so cold, Mr. Sheridan stated he would have been going door to door today to his neighbors to ask them to sign something in support of this application.  In the summer they were saying this is great.  We have a new vegetable stand going up and it looks great.  Mr. Sheridan is here to cast his vote in favor of leaving things the way they are.

Chairman Duren asked that Mr. Giner give Mr. Sheridan an answer as to why the Commission doesn’t waive the height.  Mr. Giner stated the Commission can’t grant variances.  The ZBA is the only board that can grant variances.  There’s an interpretation about appearance but it doesn’t give the Commission the authority to grant a variance.  From an appearance standpoint, it does look like it fits in there. 

Chairman Duren stated Mr. Jarmoc started with ZBA. 

Some discussion followed on how to compensate for the lower height.

Commissioner Falk asked if Mr. Jarmoc thought about making it look like a hay barn with a double pitch in the roof and making it lower in the middle.  Mr. Jarmoc thought about that but the way the roof is built, it is not a one span piece of wood for a twenty-one foot rafter.  It is two thirteen foot pieces spliced together in the middle.  There are two plates, an upper plate and a lower plate so the rafters can sit.  The lower rafter now sticks out so it would be a lot of work.  It would be a lot harder to lower the roof.  The way he is thinking of lowering the roof is physically going to be easier, he thinks.  He’ll find out and may come in for a demolition permit next. 

Chairman Duren acknowledged it is a nice looking building. 

Mr. Giner stated there is a need to waive the full submission requirements. 

Chairman Duren closed Public Hearing #2690.

Commissioner Falk made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Ladd, to waive the full submission requirements of Section 9.10.2 because the Commission finds that the information is not necessary in order to decide on the application’s conformance with these Regulations.  The motion was approved by a 5 – 0 – 0 vote with Alternates Ladd and Gregory voting.

Commissioner Falk made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Ballard, to approve PH # 2690 – Special Use Permit to allow the construction of a Farm Stand in excess of 200 s.f. at 147 Abbe Rd. in a Residential 44 (R44) District, Map 85, Lot 16, Jarmoc Real Estate LLC owner/applicant. This approval is subject to conformance with the submitted record and the following conditions:

General Conditions:

1.  This approval will become effective upon the filing of a Special Use Zoning Certificate signed by the Commission Secretary on the Land records by the owner of the property. Proof of such filing shall be in the file prior to the issuance of any permits.

2.  This approval is for the specific use and structures identified in the application.  Any change in the nature of the use or the structures will require new approvals from the Enfield Planning and Zoning Commission.

3.  All applicable Building and Fire Codes must be complied with prior to the issuance of any permits.

4.  The farm stand shall conform to the 12 foot maximum height requirement prior to the Zoning Enforcement officer signing the Certificate of Occupancy.

5.  By acceptance of this permit and conditions, the applicant and owner acknowledge the right of Town staff to periodically enter upon the subject property for the purpose of determining compliance with the terms of this approval.

The motion was approved by a 5 – 0 – 0 vote with Alternates Gregory and Ladd voting. 

Chairman Duren stated the application meets the requirements of Section 4.30.1 and Section 9.20.2 a 1. and it’s very accessible for any fire and police protection.  It’s in a location that’s in general harmony with the orderly development of the district and the area in which it is situated.  It is in a farm area. 

NEW BUSINESS

a.  SPR #1486– Modification of Plans previously approved to place one exterior metal cage for propane cylinder exchange at Walgreen Pharmacy located in a Business Local (BL) District at 2 Shaker Rd., Map 64, Lot 70; Walgreen’s, applicant; Blake Investments, LLC, owner.

The applicant was not present.

Mr. Giner stated this is the same company that put the cage up at Stop & Shop except in this case rather than having two cages, they only have one.  The latest correspondence from the Fire Marshal which came in after the packets went out was that Fire Marshal Censki said he had no issues with the change.  He was going to put bollards in and separate it to a four-foot inside width. 

Chairman Duren questioned if two bollards are enough to cover one cage.  Mr. Giner stated it would be.

Commissioner Ladd stated on the drawing he shows a whole parking space in between the bollards.  That means you can drive a car between the bollards.  Mr. Giner stated he is stating it is going to be a four foot inside width.  If you look at the correspondence with the fire marshals, he changed the requirement to do bollards rather than crash barriers.

Commissioner Longhi stated there aren’t good measurements on the drawing -   according to the drawing that is Exhibit 11.

Mr. Giner stated he is telling us it is going to be four feet.  If the Commission wants a revised drawing for signature that shows the four foot width, he will obtain it.  Mr. Giner stated he thinks he just didn’t draw it to scale. 

Commissioner Ballard asked if a car can fit through the bollards.  Mr. Giner stated the way it is drawn, yes.  If you look at the email, however, he is saying it is going to be four feet inside width.  You can’t put a car between four feet.

Chairman Duren stated where it is located is a heavily traveled area.

Commissioner Ladd stated he should have three bollards four feet apart.  One would be located at the center and one on each side.

Commissioner Longhi noted it says that seven feet of sidewalk needed to be clear but he is showing seven feet from the store front to the edge of the curb.  With the cage in there, it doesn’t give seven feet of clearance.  It doesn’t tell us how many feet are clear on the drawing.

Commissioner Ladd noted the need for a better drawing.  Commissioner Longhi agreed. 

Commissioner Longhi stated it was on Exhibit 11.  He had a little arrow that said seven feet from the wall of the store to the curb edge.  Then John was saying it had to have four feet clear.  Commissioner Longhi questioned if we know that the cage is only three feet and how big are the posts.  According to the drawing the Commission cannot really tell if it meets what John was requesting. 

Mr. Giner stated the cage is 29”.  You will have the four feet assuming it is going to be right up against the back. 

Chairman Duren asked if the bollards are the heavy bollards and not the small ones.  Mr. Giner stated he is going to get the crash tests to the Fire Marshal.  Chairman Duren stated the Commission wanted the same size as was at Stop & Shop. 

Mr. Giner stated he was supposed to get the crash ratings to the Traffic Safety Officer and the Fire Marshal.  It is going to be whatever the Traffic Safety Officer requires.

Chairman Duren stated there is no problem with the cars parking there and he has enough room even with the bollards.  The last time they were talking about the possibility of the cars sticking out too far.  Mr. Giner stated he had a jersey barrier actually on the pavement and now the bollards are going to go on the sidewalk so there will be no obstruction to the cars other than the front bumper if they park too close. 

Chairman Duren asked if they will have special lighting over these.  Mr. Giner stated he believes they are going to be available only when the store is open.  They didn’t propose any new lighting. 

Commissioner Longhi stated she is more concerned with the distance.  If you are supposed to have four feet of clearance, you have the bollards and they are probably going to be moved in a little bit and not right on the edge.  If there’s any space against the back wall and if the cage is exactly 29” from front to back, it’s going to be close.  It’s like just clear of four feet but that wouldn’t give them any space to set the holes. 

Mr. Giner stated he is going to put in four inch bollards and there will be seven inches to spare on the cage.  The four inch bollards have to be put more than three inches in from the curb and that will give you the four foot clear space that John is saying. 

Commissioner Ladd requested that Mr. Giner ask the applicant for a revised drawing with dimensioning.  He is not prepared to vote yes on this.

Chairman Duren stated some Commissioners suggested three bollards instead of two.  Commissioner Ladd stated it depends on the width of the cage.  Commissioner Longhi stated it says forty four inches on the plan before the Commission.  Mr. Giner stated he doesn’t think it is to scale on that drawing. 

Commissioner Falk asked how about if you come in on an angle.  Commissioner Ladd stated three bollards would definitely be safer.

Mr. Giner stated if you are coming in off of Elm Street, you do have that curbed island.  Commissioner Falk stated north bound there is no island and you could come in on an angle and whack it unless you have the extra bollard.

Mr. Giner stated the Commission would like a detailed drawing sort of zoomed in with the proper dimensions shown on the plan showing the distance between the bollards and the curb and then the distance between the bollards and the cage.  The suggestion was made to have three bollards instead of two and this was the consensus of the Commission. 

Commissioner Gregory felt that three bollards would be more adequate than just the two of them. 

Following some discussion on the drawing presented, Mr. Giner stated he can probably get a building plan from the building department.

Chairman Duren stated the January 7 meeting is usually just for the election of officers but he will be willing to put this application at the end of that meeting. 

Chairman Duren asked that any additional lighting be confirmed. 

Chairman Duren made a suggestion.  The information on the front of the memo that the proposed bollards shall be installed such that four feet of the seven feet of sidewalk is left clear for pedestrian access to the store should be added to the conditions.

Commissioner Longhi made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Ballard, to table SPR#1486 until the next meeting if the proper paperwork is received.  The motion was approved by a 6 – 0 – 0 vote with Alternates Ladd and Gregory voting. 

APPLICATIONS TO BE RECEIVED

The following application was received by the Commission:

Site Plans: 

SPR#1487 – Proposed Change of Use to recording studio for existing commercial space at 80 Pearl Street (Unit 84), in a TVCZ District, Map 24, Lot 117, John Moran, Applicant; Cornerstone Venture Group, LLC, Owner.

Chairman Duren stated he talked to the Mayor and he does plan to be present at the Commission’s next meeting.

ADJOURNMENT

Commissioner Ballard made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Gregory, to adjourn.  Following a unanimous vote, the Commission adjourned at 8:37 p.m.

                                                          Respectfully submitted,

 

 

                                                          _______________________________

                                                          Peter Falk, Secretary

                                                          Enfield Planning and Zoning Commission

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